Bug 103751

Summary:	YOU changes desktop focus
Product:	[openSUSE] SUSE LINUX 10.0	Reporter:	Rasmus Plewe <rasmus>
Component:	KDE	Assignee:	Lubos Lunak <llunak>
Status:	RESOLVED WORKSFORME	QA Contact:	Klaus Kämpf <kkaempf>
Severity:	Minor
Priority:	P5 - None
Version:	Beta 1
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Hardware:	Other
OS:	All
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Description Rasmus Plewe 2005-08-10 08:09:19 UTC

Hello, 
 
when starting YOU and changing to a different virtual desktop, YOU changes 
back to the initial desktop when the window "getting a list of mirror 
servers..." appears. Usually, an application should never override my choice 
of workspace focus. Even less so for something as trivial as this.

Comment 1 Lukas Ocilka 2005-08-10 22:46:37 UTC

Which windowmanager do you use, please?
Could you, please, provide a step-by-step information how to reproduce that?
Thanks.

Comment 2 Rasmus Plewe 2005-08-12 13:57:45 UTC

I use kdm, with "focus follows mouse".  
 
step-by-step: 
 
on virtual desktop #1: 
alt-F2, "xterm" 
in xterm: "ssh -Y root@localhost" 
"yast2 online_update" 
YOU window opens 
now change to a different virtual desktop (e.g. ctrl-F2) 
After some seconds, YOU will start looking for mirrows and open a window to 
pass this Very Important Information to the user. This window pops up on 
virtual desktop #1, and the current virtual desktop is changed to #1.

Comment 3 Lukas Ocilka 2005-08-12 14:12:26 UTC

New window everytimes opens up in the `current` virtual desktop, so if you open
a YaST dialog and then change the virtual desktop, every Popup (such as "lookin
up...", "Any busy message...", "Error: no server found..." is opened on the
`current` one.

On the other hand when this "focus follow mouse" changes itself your virtual
desktop once the "Busy message" is closed, it is a KDE bug.

Windowmaker isn't affected by this bug...

Comment 4 Rasmus Plewe 2005-08-12 15:49:10 UTC

You are right, it seems to be a KDE bug. Triggered by "Focus follows mouse" or 
"Focus strictly under mouse". It does not appear when using "Click to focus". 
The behavior can be observed also by starting a program from the K menu and 
changing to another desktop: once the program opens the window the window is 
placed on the desktop it was started (good), and this desktop is put in the 
front (bad).  
 
I consider this behavior still a bug and undesireable.  
However, I suspect the KDE people will claim "works as designed", recommend 
"use 'click to focus' if you  don't like it that way" and complain "we got 
more *real* problems to fix than we can possibly manage anyway"... ;-)

Comment 5 Stephan Kulow 2005-08-13 18:36:06 UTC

I leave it up to Lubos to quote Rasmus - Focus Follows Mouse is really 80ties 
technology

Comment 6 Lubos Lunak 2005-08-13 19:44:20 UTC

Are you sure your focus policy is "Focus follows mouse" and not "Focus under mouse"? 
Please recheck the bug for all the 4 focus policies.

Comment 7 Lubos Lunak 2005-10-17 14:05:03 UTC

No reponse. It's presumably not "Focus follows mouse" but "Focus under mouse", for which focus-stealing prevention doesn't work.