Bug 114917

Summary:	Default Czech keymap setting circumvents KDE keymap switching
Product:	[openSUSE] SUSE LINUX 10.0	Reporter:	Jiri Dluhos <jdluhos>
Component:	KDE	Assignee:	E-mail List <kde-maintainers>
Status:	RESOLVED WONTFIX	QA Contact:	E-mail List <qa-bugs>
Severity:	Minor
Priority:	P5 - None
Version:	Beta 4
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Hardware:	x86
OS:	All
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Description Jiri Dluhos 2005-09-02 08:48:49 UTC

When the user chooses Czech language setting in the installer, the X keyboard   
is by default set to dual Czech/English keymap with switching via the  
Shift/Shift combo. 
 
This setting works and would be completely correct except for the fact that 
the KDE environment uses a different scheme for keyboard switching, which is 
circumvented by this.  
 
Therefore, KDE "thinks" it has only one keyboard setting, the English one 
(although in fact it is the Czech/English dual one), and the user does not 
have the keyboard indicator icon in the systray. 
 
When the user activates the KDE way of keyboard switching, the keyboard 
indicator appears, and everything works as expected, but the keyboard 
switching key combo is now Ctrl+Alt+K instead of the original Shift/Shift. 
This could be confusing for a newbie user. 
 
Sadly, I have no idea how to fix this; it would be possible to leave the plain 
English keymap and set up the keymap switching in KDE instead, but then we 
won't have Czech keyboard in non-KDE window managers. Sigh.

Comment 1 Siegfried Olschner 2005-09-02 13:32:48 UTC

This seems to be a problem caused by KDE and is not primary a usability 
problem. Does KDE override the X keyboard settings by default?

Comment 2 Jiri Dluhos 2005-09-02 14:46:16 UTC

KDE does not modify X keymap settings unless explicitly told to do so (via the 
Control Center >> Keyboard Layout >> Enable keyboard layout). This is not a 
problem; if the user does not touch the keyboard settings, everything works, 
*except* that there is no keyboard layout notification in the systray (because 
KDE does not feel the need to put it there as it does not control the keymap).

Comment 3 Dirk Mueller 2005-09-03 23:21:45 UTC

shift/shift is usually used for switching between RTL/LTR text input in KDE.. 
not sure we can reassign this keyboard shortcut there.

Comment 4 Jiri Dluhos 2005-09-04 15:32:07 UTC

The shift/shift combination is not necessary, I would be perfectly  
happy with the Ctrl+Alt+K hotkey, if it was installed in KDE from the start  
(along with the visible keymap indicator).

Comment 5 Lubos Lunak 2006-04-20 15:57:19 UTC

Users smart enough to figure out the Shift/Shift part should be also smart enough to cope with the rest. And normal users shouldn't need a keyboard layout switcher.