Bug 1224386

Summary:	Please package systemd-resolved seperate from systemd-network
Product:	[openSUSE] openSUSE Tumbleweed	Reporter:	Richard Brown <rbrown>
Component:	Basesystem	Assignee:	systemd maintainers <systemd-maintainers>
Status:	NEW ---	QA Contact:	E-mail List <qa-bugs>
Severity:	Normal
Priority:	P5 - None	CC:	fbui
Version:	Current
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Description Richard Brown 2024-05-16 14:33:14 UTC

I get why resolved is packaged with networkd but there's also use cases where resolved would be very , very useful, even with NetworkManager

eg. I want it for openSUSE Aeon, with GNOME, with NetworkManager, but using resovled for more intelligent DNS resolution as people hop networks/VPNs.

Could we please package -resolved as it's own seperate thing and have it required by -networkd, as I really wouldn't like to have -networkd installed if I can avoid it.

Comment 1 Franck Bui 2024-06-04 07:40:43 UTC

Just out of curiosity, why do you want to avoid it ?

As long as systemd-networkd remains disabled, it shouldn't cause any problems.

Is it only to spare a few Mo on the disk ?

Comment 2 Richard Brown 2024-06-04 07:50:04 UTC

(In reply to Franck Bui from comment #1)
> Just out of curiosity, why do you want to avoid it ?
> 
> As long as systemd-networkd remains disabled, it shouldn't cause any
> problems.
> 
> Is it only to spare a few Mo on the disk ?

Aeon typically doesn't want extra binaries and services lying around on the disk that we're not using

There's always a chance my users will turn it on if its there

Then I'll have to deal with the bug reports

and I dont want that, as on Aeon we will only support NetworkManager

Comment 3 Franck Bui 2024-06-04 08:03:57 UTC

(In reply to Richard Brown from comment #2)
> 
> Then I'll have to deal with the bug reports

Noted that you'll be the one who deal with systemd bugs on Aeon ;)

> and I dont want that, as on Aeon we will only support NetworkManager

Then it's easy to close such bugs as "not supported".

Comment 4 Richard Brown 2024-06-04 08:07:20 UTC

(In reply to Franck Bui from comment #3)
> (In reply to Richard Brown from comment #2)
> > 
> > Then I'll have to deal with the bug reports
> 
> Noted that you'll be the one who deal with systemd bugs on Aeon ;)

I AM the one who deals first with ALL bugs on Aeon. I foolishly thought it was a good idea to make myself the default assignee for every category of that Aeon product.

You'll only ever get systemd-on-Aeon bugs from me if it's clearly outside of my realm of fixing..then I hand that over to you - like for example, this bug :)

> > and I dont want that, as on Aeon we will only support NetworkManager
> 
> Then it's easy to close such bugs as "not supported".

In a Tumbleweed-land where users are expected to mix & match what components are on their system, yes

But on Aeon there's an expectation that I ONLY ship stuff that I support. So if I'm shipping stuff that I don't support, that's weird.

And I'd rather avoid that..hence..this bug :)

Comment 5 Franck Bui 2024-06-04 08:23:45 UTC

(In reply to Richard Brown from comment #4)
> You'll only ever get systemd-on-Aeon bugs from me if it's clearly outside of
> my realm of fixing..then I hand that over to you - like for example, this
> bug :)

Actually I would tend to think that this one belongs to the category of bugs you should be able to fix since it's purely something related to packaging ;)

Splitting packages has always been tricky to get it correctly done the first time, at least for me...