Bug 1226379

Summary:	apache2-event no longer requires apache2
Product:	[openSUSE] openSUSE Distribution	Reporter:	Georg Pfuetzenreuter <georg.pfuetzenreuter>
Component:	Apache	Assignee:	E-mail List <apache-bugs>
Status:	NEW ---	QA Contact:	E-mail List <qa-bugs>
Severity:	Normal
Priority:	P5 - None	CC:	david.anes, pgajdos
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Description Georg Pfuetzenreuter 2024-06-15 06:44:22 UTC

In the past the MPMs were subpackages which respective "Require" lines on the main package. Now it seems to have been refactored to a multibuild setup missing the Requires on the main package, leading to a missing base directory layout and missing sysconfig file if only apache2-event is installed.

Comment 1 Georg Pfuetzenreuter 2024-06-15 07:43:07 UTC

I made https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/1180997.

Comment 2 Petr Gajdos 2024-06-17 10:23:16 UTC

The original thought was, as far as I remember at least:

1. zypper in apache2 (or zypper in apache2 apache2-event if you don't want default prefork MPM) installs what you request for (sysconfig, ).

2. zypper in apache2-<MPM> is meant to be minimal and installs just the MPM with modules, nothing else.

Unfortunately I haven't heard any feedback on this previously, perhaps you may find this misleading or not useful at all as the second possibility does not work out of the box and you need to provide (even minimal) configuration by something else (either in default location /etc/apache2/httpd.conf or any file specified by -f).

The decision is of course on current apache2 maintainer (David), just wanted to express the reasoning, sorry for chiming in.

Comment 3 Georg Pfuetzenreuter 2024-06-19 12:02:35 UTC

Hi Petr,

thanks for the explanation. I understand why a minimal httpd setup might be of interest. It was just rather unexpected as some of our tooling broke with the upgrade to 15.6 as there was no need to explicitly include "apache2" before. I think that at least the directory layout would be useful to have in the minimal setup and that maybe the package names should be more indicative if the separation missing the "Requires" is intended to be kept, given the standard expectation in openSUSE being that services installed by packages are startable "out of the box".

Comment 4 David Anes 2024-07-01 14:52:03 UTC

I'm not sure what's the best option here. I like the idea from Petr, to have a very mininmal httpd install, but I also think Georg has a point.

What I'm not sure is if we will break anything, as the multibuild has been around for quite some time.

Maybe we can document this somewhere? Ideas?

Comment 5 Petr Gajdos 2024-07-02 09:40:54 UTC

(In reply to David Anes from comment #4)
> I'm not sure what's the best option here. I like the idea from Petr, to have
> a very mininmal httpd install, but I also think Georg has a point.

Sure, both will have pros and cons and I am completely fine with either way.