Bug 130001

Summary:	Security updates hangs around too long
Product:	[openSUSE] SUSE Linux 10.1	Reporter:	David Sherman <dshermin>
Component:	YaST2	Assignee:	Siegfried Olschner <siegfried.olschner>
Status:	RESOLVED INVALID	QA Contact:	Klaus Kämpf <kkaempf>
Severity:	Enhancement
Priority:	P5 - None	CC:	andreas.hanke, suse-beta
Version:	unspecified
Target Milestone:	---
Hardware:	i686
OS:	SuSE Linux 10.0
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Found By:	Customer	Services Priority:
Business Priority:		Blocker:	---
Marketing QA Status:	---	IT Deployment:	---

Description David Sherman 2005-10-21 16:19:42 UTC

I noticed this AM after booting into Suse that the little box announcing
"secuity updates were now available" stayed around even after I got the patches.
It would be nice to see something so I can press a bottom to send that dialog
box to go away.

Comment 1 Michael Gross 2005-10-24 10:45:24 UTC

We need help from the kde-maintainers. I guess we're talking about the susewatcher-program here. And I would rather call it an enhancement.

Comment 2 Stephan Kulow 2005-10-24 11:52:39 UTC

sorry, the backend is maintained by Yast Maintainers. And the susewatcher only polls if the online update was successful. Currently there is no signal from yast that it was. That has to be implemented first (e.g. using dbus)

Comment 3 Michael Radziej 2005-10-24 14:09:35 UTC

I'm not sure if this is only a misunderstanding.

David, you can simply click on the little box and it goes away. Is this what you want?

Comment 4 David Sherman 2005-10-24 14:35:21 UTC

No, I come from the Windows world. I don't need to see a dialog box to tell me that patches are out there. I just need a tray item to get them or automatically download them for me.

The dialog box is a distraction.

The dialog shows up when they are updates or when a new user logon's.

Comment 5 Michael Radziej 2005-10-24 14:43:17 UTC

Reassigning to usability team for consideration.

Comment 6 Siegfried Olschner 2006-08-07 09:11:18 UTC

(I try to work up my items)

Hm, I think the tray item in Windows will also open a dialog bubble that patches are out there if the options are set to manual update.

Windows has the possibility to configure the behavior, I think MS has 4 types of update notifications (automatic -> manual).

The concept of the "YaST Update Tool" in combination with the "YaST Software Manager" showed a workflow similar to Windows, usable for normal users and expert users. But this is skipped.

And now we have the ZEN-Updater.

Michael: 
What is the future of YaST Online Update and SUSE Watcher? 
Can we add options to select
- download patches and install in background
- download patches and ask for installation
- search for patches and ask me to download and install

Can we add more options to manage the information feedback to the user? Where to place them, in the SUSE Watcher in the YaST Online Upate Options?

Comment 7 David Sherman 2006-08-16 23:37:35 UTC

Is there a way to automatically "download the update - security" and let the user then decide when to update?

Comment 8 Siegfried Olschner 2006-08-17 06:27:57 UTC

At the moment, ... I think there is no way to do so. Neither in the YaST-Update nor in the ZEN-updater. This feature was discussed/planned for the skipped "Update Tool".

Q: David, why didn't you use the ZEN-updater?

Comment 9 Siegfried Olschner 2006-12-20 09:36:04 UTC

I close this enhancement "bug" via "invalid". This does not mean that we skip thinking about the problems in the background. Update process defintion is subject to supervision.