Bug 131526

What "own session manager layout"? All options of the "Session Manager" control module work fine here, please be more specific what is broken.

I mean that the session manager with the spinning dots doesn´t really keep to the settings which I make in the control module. I don´t see no "SuSE Linux 10.0 (%h)" greeting text nor a clock (which is enabled), for example.

You're talking about the "Login Manager" all the time, I bet that's also the name that the module has as title on your computer and in the module selection list view.

You can remove the DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME line from /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager btw to make it work.

I haven´t done this bug report because I have a real problem with it. I´m just "testing" the alphas of SuSE. And IMHO there are several things which should be changed because SuSE is "a complete system" and not just "a collection of software". This is just one example. This "login manager" (sorry *g) module is part of stock KDE but it has no use in SuSE because if you set something there it won´t be regarded by the SuSE own login manager theme. There are more examples in various areas which I also filed bug reports for. I think it´s really good for usability if there´s only one place to change a setting and also all the settings do something on your system.
If this is regarded as an invalid report (because SuSE ships stock KDE without modifications) then it could be closed IMO.

*** Bug 80312 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

I have had a large customer run into this bug.  From their perspective they appeared to have a very nice tool to modify the login screen but were sadly disappointed when they tried to use it.

They are running SLED 10.  I had them remove the DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME line (as mentioned above) and it made no difference.  The only thing I can have them do is modify the file /opt/kde3/share/apps/kdm/themes/SUSE/Background.jpeg or indicate a different custom jpeg file in the industrial.xml file.

Just see the reason why this is like that. The KDE control center module is meant to be used together with one of the stock KDM themes, not with a custom-made one like SuSE uses.
This is a thing which imho some of the SuSE developers don´t realize, why are you including system-specific control center modules in KDE? They´re meant for distributions which are KDE-only and don´t contain their own control center like YaST. In SuSe if the user runs gnome for example he doesn´t have access to them. Also, as you see here, they don´t work in distros like SuSE. They´re many more examples which I submitted bug reports for, but unfortunately nobody does understand this, or I was told to submitt bugs for each component, but this is a general problem!
I quit using SuSE and moved to Kubuntu, because they´re doing this "the right way", per user settings are seperated from system-wide settings. For SuSE this means that the KDE control center should contains only "per user-per desktop" settings like Appearance. All system-wide settings should be in YaST.
So in this case the control module should go away and the user should be able to configure the login manager with YaST.

*** Bug 188115 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

I tried the advise I got on my Bug Report 188115:

<quote>
Comment #1 From Christian Boltz 2006-06-24 09:12 MST [reply]

(Alexander, please don't inline long configuration files. Bugzilla has a
feature to attach files which should be used instead.)

/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager:
# Define the theme to be used by kdm. If empty, the traditional login
# window is used (which lacks some features)
DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME="SUSE"

You probably need to unset this.


KDE developers: Please do not close this as invalid.

This is at least a usability problem - changing the theme via kcontrol should
work.
</quote>


This had NO visible effect.

*** Bug 182538 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

I think this is fixed with 10.2 - as it's no longer using an own config file, but uses SUSE default whenever the kdm config does not say anything else.