Bug 146893

Summary:	"Network Mode" text confusing
Product:	[openSUSE] SUSE Linux 10.1	Reporter:	Simon Crute <simon.crute>
Component:	YaST2	Assignee:	Katarina Machalkova <kmachalkova>
Status:	RESOLVED FIXED	QA Contact:	Klaus Kämpf <kkaempf>
Severity:	Normal
Priority:	P5 - None	CC:	bamm-bamm, Daniel.Ottey, ke, silviu_marin-caea, suse-beta
Version:	Beta 2
Target Milestone:	---
Hardware:	Other
OS:	Other
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Description Simon Crute 2006-01-31 09:17:20 UTC

Hi, 

During initial configuration, yast shows a screen where you can configure network manager. The options are

User Controller Interfaces via NetworkManagerApplet (Disable)
Tradditional Method without NetworkManager Applet (Enable)

It not clear exactly what each option does, especailly to someone new to suse linux. 

I would sugest something like

NetowrkManager is (enabled)      (User controlled interfaces)
Network Manager is (disabled)    (traditional method)

or 

User Controller Interfaces via NetworkManagerApplet  (Network manager enabled)
Tradditional Method without NetworkManager Applet (Netowork Manager disabled)

Comment 1 Michael Gross 2006-01-31 10:23:28 UTC

I'm not sure if this gives any more information... isn't there a descriptive help text? If not, maby it should be added here with some clues for a newbie what NetworkManager is all about?
Jiri: Please comment about it.

Comment 2 Simon Crute 2006-01-31 10:40:27 UTC

It may not give more information, but the logic about what is enabled and disabled is clearer IMO. 

Yes, I'd hope the help text said what network manger is about, but it is not imidiatly obvious when network manager is enabled, and when it is disabled. 

Maybe it's more obvious in german, and it's loosing something in the translation.

Comment 3 Christian Boltz 2006-02-03 19:51:29 UTC

*** Bug 148049 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 4 Silviu Marin-Caea 2006-02-04 06:24:31 UTC

Suggestion (improved) from the dupe bug I filed:

Now using traditional method (Switch to Network Manager)
Now using Network Manager (Switch to traditional method)

Comment 5 Silviu Marin-Caea 2006-02-04 08:22:46 UTC

Can't it be done with a radio button?  It would be much clearer:

( ) Traditional method
(*) Network Manager Applet

Comment 6 Karl Eichwalder 2006-02-06 08:33:47 UTC

Yes, at the moment, the wording is very confusing--but we have to stick with it for the box because we already started with translating the manuals.

Yes, using radio buttons would be the best.  But we must give up on name dropping.  Both, "Traditional method" and "Network Manager Applet" is something the user does not want to take into consideration.  The user simply wants to select things such as "Single User Machine with temporary Internet Access", "Server System with permanent Networking", "Mobile Machine", etc.

Comment 7 Michael Gross 2006-02-06 12:21:23 UTC

*** Bug 148086 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 8 Michael Gross 2006-02-06 12:21:49 UTC

*** Bug 148084 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 9 Michael Gross 2006-02-06 12:44:27 UTC

*** Bug 147706 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 11 Karl Eichwalder 2006-05-04 06:21:16 UTC

It is too late again.  The revision of admin guide for SLES is already done and translations are in the works.  Please resolve it as "LATER".

Comment 12 Martin Vidner 2006-08-28 11:52:33 UTC

Reassigning to the new maintainer of yast2-network.

Comment 13 Katarina Machalkova 2006-11-08 15:34:47 UTC

In 10.2, this part of installation proposal has slightly changed. If you click on Network Mode header, you get a dialog with two radio buttons where you can select between ifup and Network Manager method. This dialog also contains help text what each method is good for. See also bug #203817. 

However, you can still switch between enabled/disabled NetworkManager by clicking on that link. I consider this as fixed. Please reopen if the fix is not sufficient for you.