Bug 154995

Summary:	mime-type application/ogg starts audio-player instead of video-player
Product:	[openSUSE] SUSE Linux 10.1	Reporter:	Juergen Weigert <jw>
Component:	KDE	Assignee:	E-mail List <kde-maintainers>
Status:	RESOLVED WONTFIX	QA Contact:	E-mail List <qa-bugs>
Severity:	Normal
Priority:	P5 - None	CC:	joe
Version:	Beta 6
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Description Juergen Weigert 2006-03-03 14:08:10 UTC

ogg is a general container. It may contain both audio and video. 
# application/ogg is the official mime type.
# Unfortunatly, we cannot use it, as KDE (as of SL10.0) does the wrong thing.
# With application/ogg, konqueror asks the user if it should start amarok or download the file.
# The alternative choice 'start with ...' is missing here. Amarok is an audio-only player.
# When it sees an ogg video-stream, it silently starts to busy-loop and plays nothing.
#
# If we use video/ogg, konqueror offers the 'start with ...' dialog.
# Type in 'kaffeine' and it will play the video as a streaming client.
# (Do not select kaffeine from the multimedia video players menue. 
# It will only download the file and then fail to start.)
#
application/ogg                 ogg     
# video/ogg                     ogg

Please consider if it is possible to get a video-player for ogg video-streams.

Please also fix the kaffeine entry in the 'open with ... ' dialog to start 'kaffeine' rather than 'kaffeine %U'.

Please also allow the 'open with...' button to select alternatives unconditionly.

Comment 1 Stephan Kulow 2006-03-03 15:06:50 UTC

way too complex. a "general container format" is just broken - especially if the extension is the only way to find it. And as a matter of fact .oggs are 99% of all cases audio.

File magic knows the difference (and so should web servers).

0       string          OggS            application/ogg
>28     string          \x01vorbis      audio/vorbis
>28     string          fLaC            audio/x-oggflac
>28     string          \x80theora      video/x-theora
>87     string          \x80theora      video/x-theora
>28     string          Speex\ \        audio/x-speex
>29     string          video           video/x-ogm
>29     string          FLAC            audio/x-oggflac


And your kaffeine point I don't get, perhaps you want to file a real bug report about that?

Comment 2 Stephan Kulow 2006-03-12 10:09:37 UTC

*** Bug 157468 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 3 Juergen Weigert 2006-03-13 12:53:52 UTC

for the kaffeine issue: 
I found that 'kaffeine' causes the video to start playing right away as a streaming video. 'kaffeine %U' causes the video to get downloaded first, then played. 
I haven't figured out yet how streaming vs. download-play really is decided.
We should prefer streaming if there is any choice.

Comment 4 Stephan Kulow 2006-03-13 13:03:07 UTC

there might still be a bug. I wonder how 'kaffeine' can pass any kind of URL though