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| Summary: | replace pine with the (OSS) "alpine" | ||
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| Product: | [openSUSE] openSUSE 10.3 | Reporter: | Cristian Rodríguez <crrodriguez> |
| Component: | Other | Assignee: | Bernhard Kaindl <bk> |
| Status: | RESOLVED FIXED | QA Contact: | E-mail List <qa-bugs> |
| Severity: | Enhancement | ||
| Priority: | P5 - None | CC: | gp, jengelh, stefan.fent |
| Version: | Alpha 3 | ||
| Target Milestone: | --- | ||
| Hardware: | Other | ||
| OS: | Other | ||
| Whiteboard: | #302834: Replace pine by alpine and put alpine on the OSS media | ||
| Found By: | Other | Services Priority: | |
| Business Priority: | Blocker: | --- | |
| Marketing QA Status: | --- | IT Deployment: | --- |
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Description
Cristian Rodríguez
2007-04-30 21:06:47 UTC
I've packaged alpine-0.999 for openSUSE 10.3, it should become available thru openSUSE factory soon. But especially on 64-bit platforms, alpine may crash on you. It's not as rock-solid as pine yet. This is being tracked as FATE #302834 and we plan to open this aspect of FATE soon. I have personally been using Alpine for several months and reported a few critical bugs (crashes) and other suggestions. On x86 Alpine seems sufficiently stable now. Agreed, with alpine-0.9999, things are pretty stable now and replacement of pine with alpine is due for the next release. The consider my alpine-0.9999 package which didn't make it for 10.3 as stable now and ready for release. I'd even go as far and add "Obsoletes: pine" to it subsequently file a package drop request for pine for Factory. alpine 0.9999 lacks Maildir support, which is present in pine-4.64N-93. I've updated to alpine-1.00 and applied the patches from Eduardo Chappa which added maildir support to SuSE's pine package. Alpine 1.10 has been released a couple of days ago. :-) Any chance to move to that? (I've been using it successfully.) A 1.10 with maildir and sanitized default config can be found in my repo (suser-jengelh). Update to 1.10 done. It should be in Factory now or very soon. jengelh: I do not agree that your default config is "sanitized". To me, it looks like your personal preferences but I would not agree to use them in a openSUSE distribution package. Alpine has much better defaults than pine had out of the box. It has some options enabled by default which were disabled in pine and are very useful like enabling navigation with the cursor keys. I think that the alpine defaults are now very reasonable and I do not see a pressing reason to change any. If at all, I would not change them by adding a default config file with many other settings, but change the defaults directly in the option table. This is one of the nice inprovements in alpine's code compared to alpine. PS: For German readers, it's already mentioned on the German Factory News page: http://de.opensuse.org/Factory/Neuigkeiten#.C3.84nderungen_seit_openSUSE_11.0_Beta1 PPS: For German users, I updated the (former) german openSUSE Pine article: http://de.opensuse.org/Alpine >To me, it looks like your personal preferences The colors perhaps yes. But the standard pine is harder to use for professionals; things like threading, external editor, Select/Apply key, relaxed movement, and a lot of what I take for granted every day. >If at all, I would not change them by adding a default config file with many other settings, but change the defaults directly in the option table. That would mean I'd have to recompile it. (Ignoring the fact that lbuild does it anyway), but other people could just copy the pine.conf to /etc to make their pine system that way without having to recompile it. (Ignoring the fact that they could just install the RPM anyway... but think outside of SUSE.) |