Bug 1041742 - transfiletriggerin and transfiletriggerpostun are not executed by libzypp
Summary: transfiletriggerin and transfiletriggerpostun are not executed by libzypp
Status: REOPENED
: 1212798 (view as bug list)
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Product: openSUSE Tumbleweed
Classification: openSUSE
Component: libzypp (show other bugs)
Version: Current
Hardware: Other Other
: P1 - Urgent : Normal (vote)
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Blocks: 1133764 1212798
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Reported: 2017-05-30 12:51 UTC by Dominique Leuenberger
Modified: 2023-11-24 16:40 UTC (History)
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Description Dominique Leuenberger 2017-05-30 12:51:01 UTC
In GNOME:Next, we started experimenting with file triggers (with the goal to lower the number of bugs based on missing post scripts)

As a sample, I implemented this trigger (on glib2-tools):

%transfiletriggerin -n glib2-tools -- %{_datadir}/glib-2.0/schemas
%{_bindir}/glib-compile-schemas %{_datadir}/glib-2.0/schemas

%transfiletriggerpostun -n glib2-tools -- %{_datadir}/glib-2.0/schemas
%{_bindir}/glib-compile-schemas %{_datadir}/glib-2.0/schemas

The trigger is confirmed to work, but in some cases, it seems not to fire, eg on the package 'gdm'

(which is currently the reason why http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Medias/images/iso/?P=GNOME_Next*.iso fails to boot to desktop)

zypper in --no-recommends gdm => the file trigger is not executed
rpm -i gdm-3.24.1.rpm         => the trigger actually seems to work (which is why I file it against libzypp)

This currently stops us from moving forward and proposing file triggers to be more widely used (even though I think they can solve quite some packaging bugs)

The packages in question for testing are all in the GNOME:Next repository
(glib2 which has the trigger, it has the %glib2_gsettings_schema_post set to %nil, so packages that use it in their post script only get a dummy - once the implementation is complete, we will of course go and clean those out completely)
Comment 1 Michael Andres 2017-05-30 13:54:51 UTC
(In reply to Dominique Leuenberger from comment #0)
> zypper in --no-recommends gdm => the file trigger is not executed
> rpm -i gdm-3.24.1.rpm         => the trigger actually seems to work (which
> is why I file it against libzypp)

If a package contains a %posttrans script, zypp passes '--noposttrans' to the rpm install command. Maybe this disturbs? I don't know what else in libzypp could influence this, as we don't use librpm, but exec 'rpm' to install the package.

The exact rpm command is visible in the zypper.log (grep "Executing 'rpm'" /var/log/zypper.log).
Comment 2 Dominique Leuenberger 2017-05-30 14:03:56 UTC
(In reply to Michael Andres from comment #1)
> (In reply to Dominique Leuenberger from comment #0)
> > zypper in --no-recommends gdm => the file trigger is not executed
> > rpm -i gdm-3.24.1.rpm         => the trigger actually seems to work (which
> > is why I file it against libzypp)
> 
> If a package contains a %posttrans script, zypp passes '--noposttrans' to
> the rpm install command. Maybe this disturbs? I don't know what else in
> libzypp could influence this, as we don't use librpm, but exec 'rpm' to
> install the package.
> 
> The exact rpm command is visible in the zypper.log (grep "Executing 'rpm'"
> /var/log/zypper.log).

ok, so gdm having a posttrans might indeed be the reason that rpm also skips the transfiletriggerin - which is, after all, also a post-trans script

I'll do some tests on my VM to confirm that this is indeed the case when using rpm.. and if so, we need to find a solution
Comment 3 Dominique Leuenberger 2017-05-30 14:15:57 UTC
Confirmed: rpm --noposttrans actually also skips the transaction file triggers
Comment 4 Michael Andres 2017-05-30 15:08:45 UTC
@mls: is there a way to circumvent this?

But even if, we still face the fact that every package forms it's own transaction. So %transfiletrigger will behave more or less the same as a %filetrigger.
Comment 5 Michael Schröder 2017-05-31 14:33:25 UTC
Do those need to be transfiletriggers? I very much dislike posttrans scriptlets, that would include those triggers as well ;)
Comment 6 Dominique Leuenberger 2017-05-31 17:52:40 UTC
Maybe in context of libzypp there is not much difference between transaction and packages - but generally seen, it's really bad having to start some cache updater 250 times instead of once.
Comment 7 Michael Andres 2017-06-01 10:25:57 UTC
(In reply to Dominique Leuenberger from comment #6)
> Maybe in context of libzypp there is not much difference between transaction
> and packages - but generally seen, it's really bad having to start some
> cache updater 250 times instead of once.

Most packages solve this via %posttrans. Libzypp uses '--noposttrans' as we manually collect the posttrans scripts and execute them after _all_ packages were installed. But we can't do this for filetriggers.
Comment 8 Dominique Leuenberger 2017-06-01 10:42:32 UTC
In this case we need a way to clearly make sure that transfiletriggers are NOT supported in openSUSE - making clear what sideffects / errors it will have.

Preferably rpmbuild will fail on a .spec file with a transfiletrigger linking to the doc )or we will get fun bug reports at one time - just like this one)
Comment 9 Michael Andres 2017-06-02 09:19:21 UTC
@mls: Isn't it actually a bug in rpm, that --noposttrans not just disables the %posttrans as it should, but also the triggers?
Comment 10 Michael Schröder 2017-06-02 09:22:53 UTC
it seems to disable the posttrans file triggers. Dunno if that can be consifered a bug.
Comment 11 Michael Andres 2017-06-02 09:48:03 UTC
>  --noscripts
>  --nopre
>  --nopost
>  --nopreun
>  --nopostun
>  --nopretrans
>  --noposttrans
>      Don't execute the scriptlet of the same name. The --noscripts 
>      option is equivalent to
> 
>      --nopre --nopost --nopreun --nopostun --nopretrans --noposttrans
> 
>      and turns off the execution of the corresponding %pre, %post, %preun,
>      %postun %pretrans, and %posttrans scriptlet(s).

The manpage says nothing about disabling triggers. Do --nopost/--nopostun also disable the corresponding triggers?
Comment 12 Michael Andres 2019-02-26 11:58:54 UTC
@mls: Leaving it up to you. A bug to fix or WONTFIX?
Comment 13 Ludwig Nussel 2019-09-27 09:53:03 UTC
This needs an answer and a fix or documentation to avoid wasting time on something that is know to fail.
Comment 14 Dr. Werner Fink 2019-09-27 10:03:53 UTC
(In reply to Michael Andres from comment #12)
> @mls: Leaving it up to you. A bug to fix or WONTFIX?

Can we please solve this with as *working* solution ... compare with boo#1152105 and SR#713226

Those %filetranstriggerin / %transfiletriggerun are perfect to reduce time on enabling info nad manual pages without using cron or time consuming single calls
Comment 15 Dr. Werner Fink 2019-09-27 10:06:54 UTC
As well as SR#733634
Comment 16 Dr. Werner Fink 2019-09-27 10:15:30 UTC
Correct maintainer for libzypp to get a working solution
Comment 17 Dr. Werner Fink 2019-09-27 10:18:14 UTC
The tracker bug boo#1133764 ... with subject:

  [TRACKER] port packages to use file triggers

can not be done without working libzypp
Comment 18 Swamp Workflow Management 2019-09-27 11:20:06 UTC
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Comment 19 Michael Andres 2019-09-27 11:42:06 UTC
- Without fixing rpm, %transfiletrigger* will not be executed because --noposttrans also disables the %transfiletrigger in rpm. 

- Even if rpm would be fixed and would execute %transfiletrigger, they will behave the same way as if you use ordinary %filetrigger* due to the way we use rpm.

Workaround could be to use %filetrigger to touch some indicator file and a posttrans rebuilding the cache if the indicator file exists. This should work no matter if rpm gets fixed or not.
Comment 20 Michael Andres 2019-10-07 11:42:32 UTC
(No matter whom it is assigned to)
@mls: Can we have an option to let rpm execute the %transfiletrigger even if --noposttrans is passed?
Comment 21 Dan Čermák 2020-08-18 11:21:15 UTC
Any updates on this?
Comment 22 Michael Andres 2020-08-18 11:31:20 UTC
@mls: ? (see comment#20)
Comment 24 Franck Bui 2020-11-02 13:46:45 UTC
FWIW systemd needs this feature too so many heavy actions would be executed only once during system updates, see [1] for details.

[1] https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/src/core/triggers.systemd.in
Comment 26 Michael Andres 2021-04-08 07:54:24 UTC
JFYI: SR#883228 brings rpm-4.16.1.3 to factory (mls: also as MR to SLE/Leap15.x ?)

With this rpm being installed we hope to be able to resolve the issue (most probably in libzypp-17.26.1). With older rpm versions installed the current behavior remains unchanged...
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https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/911001 Backports:SLE-15-SP3 / rubygem-bcrypt_pbkdf-1.1+rubygem-childprocess-4.1+rubygem-erubi-1.10+rubygem-i18n-1.8+rubygem-listen-3.6+rubygem-mime-types-3.3+rubygem-net-scp-3.0+rubygem-net-sftp-3.0+rubygem-net-ssh-6.1+rubygem-rake-13.0+rubygem-rb-fsevent-0.11+rubygem-rexml-3.2+rubygem-rspec-3.10+rubygem-rspec-core-3.10+rubygem-rspec-expectations-3.10+rubygem-rspec-mocks-3.10+rubygem-rspec-support-3.10+rubygem-vagrant_cloud-3.0+rubygem-webrick-1.7+rubygem-winrm-2.3+rubygem-winrm-elevated-1.2+rubygem-winrm-fs-1.3+vagrant+vagrant-libvirt
https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/911002 Backports:SLE-15-SP3 / rubygem-bcrypt_pbkdf-1.1+rubygem-childprocess-4.1+rubygem-erubi-1.10+rubygem-i18n-1.8+rubygem-listen-3.6+rubygem-mime-types-3.3+rubygem-net-scp-3.0+rubygem-net-sftp-3.0+rubygem-net-ssh-6.1+rubygem-rake-13.0+rubygem-rb-fsevent-0.11+rubygem-rexml-3.2+rubygem-rspec-3.10+rubygem-rspec-core-3.10+rubygem-rspec-expectations-3.10+rubygem-rspec-mocks-3.10+rubygem-rspec-support-3.10+rubygem-vagrant_cloud-3.0+rubygem-webrick-1.7+rubygem-winrm-2.3+rubygem-winrm-elevated-1.2+rubygem-winrm-fs-1.3+vagrant+vagrant-libvirt
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https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/911006 Backports:SLE-15-SP3 / rubygem-bcrypt_pbkdf-1.1+rubygem-childprocess-4.1+rubygem-erubi-1.10+rubygem-i18n-1.8+rubygem-listen-3.6+rubygem-mime-types-3.3+rubygem-net-scp-3.0+rubygem-net-sftp-3.0+rubygem-net-ssh-6.1+rubygem-rake-13.0+rubygem-rb-fsevent-0.11+rubygem-rexml-3.2+rubygem-rspec-3.10+rubygem-rspec-core-3.10+rubygem-rspec-expectations-3.10+rubygem-rspec-mocks-3.10+rubygem-rspec-support-3.10+rubygem-vagrant_cloud-3.0+rubygem-webrick-1.7+rubygem-winrm-2.3+rubygem-winrm-elevated-1.2+rubygem-winrm-fs-1.3+vagrant+vagrant-libvirt
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Comment 28 Luciano Santos 2022-10-24 11:35:44 UTC
I've tested here on my Tumbleweed system, using a dummy package to echo output messages. It's working for transfiletriggerin but, sadly, it gets invoked way too frequently IMO.

In a DUP transaction with 377 updates, transfiletriggerin got invoked around 76 times. And transfiletriggerpostun still no joy.


> $ rpm -q rpm
> rpm-4.17.1.1-2.1.x86_64
Comment 29 Michael Andres 2022-10-24 14:08:30 UTC
(In reply to Luciano Santos from comment #28)
> I've tested here on my Tumbleweed system, using a dummy package to echo

Please try also with the new installer backend. It should behave much better than the old one. Especially regarding thrigers. Enable it by calling `ZYPP_SINGLE_RPMTRANS=1 zypper ...` Or persistently enable it in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf's [main] section by setting
   [main]
   techpreview.ZYPP_SINGLE_RPMTRANS=1
Comment 30 Luciano Santos 2022-10-25 01:37:37 UTC
(In reply to Michael Andres from comment #29)
> (In reply to Luciano Santos from comment #28)
> > I've tested here on my Tumbleweed system, using a dummy package to echo
> 
> Please try also with the new installer backend. It should behave much better
> than the old one. Especially regarding thrigers. Enable it by calling
> `ZYPP_SINGLE_RPMTRANS=1 zypper ...` Or persistently enable it in
> /etc/zypp/zypp.conf's [main] section by setting
>    [main]
>    techpreview.ZYPP_SINGLE_RPMTRANS=1

Alright, with this new installer backend, things got much better.

In a DUP with 114 updates, tranfiletrigger(in|postun) is invoked only once (and I think that in my previous test I messed up the transfiletriggerpostun scriptlet, thus it didn't run).

And I saw that, apparently, Zypper is converting filetriggers to triggers. I'm going to keep an eye on the next DUPs.
Comment 31 Michael Andres 2022-10-25 07:26:37 UTC
(In reply to Luciano Santos from comment #30)
> And I saw that, apparently, Zypper is converting filetriggers to triggers.
> I'm going to keep an eye on the next DUPs.

The new backend is purely driven by librpm, so such a conversion would be done by rpm. But it could also be a matter of our reporting. 
If you find an issues, please  try to provide a small screenshot or description and please attach the /var/log/zypper.log so we can investigate. Thanks.
Comment 32 Martin Wilck 2023-02-02 08:07:31 UTC
I was hoping to be able to use %transfiletriggerun to solve bug 1195291 (on SLE/Leap). This bug here would prevent that solution.

(In reply to Michael Andres from comment #7)

> Most packages solve this via %posttrans. Libzypp uses '--noposttrans' as we
> manually collect the posttrans scripts and execute them after _all_ packages
> were installed. But we can't do this for filetriggers.

Why not?
Comment 33 Michael Andres 2023-02-02 10:06:35 UTC
(In reply to Martin Wilck from comment #32)
> Why not?

There were no options to prevent rpm from executing the triggers and for libzypp to query the triggers and to compute which triggers would have been executed, if all packages would have been executed in a single rpm transaction.

That's why we implemented an install mode that uses a single transaction completely driven by rpm.


Posttrans OTOH is comparably easy because we can query the script and there is no condition(trigger) tied to it's execution.


ZYPP_SINGLE_RPMTRANS should be propagated and established as new default. 
Even for SLE/Leap. 

Amending the traditional install would meanwhile be possible by using a patched rpm. But this is not yet tested and it bears a high risk to break existing packages and workflows. 

All trigger scripts would move to different locations within the whole transaction. This may break things and if this happens at the customers side there is no fallback. 

Unlike a rpm transaction, which can not be interrupted by Ctrl-C e.g., the traditional installer can be interrupted between packages. In some modes (downloas-as-needed) it even performs alternating downloads and installs. So we would not even be able to offer the 'fix' in all modes.

Not talking about of all the risks when having to recover from an error within the install. SINGLE_RPMTRANS solves all this 'for free'.


With ZYPP_SINGLE_RPMTRANS  we have the mode we'd like to harden and establish as future default. It has different prereqs and behaviour, for example enforcing download in advance, not being interruptible. Even if you'd kill zypper/YAST, the rpm transaction will continue like rpm itself would.
The traditions install could stay as fallback if actually needed somwhere. 

If we try to offer some solution for the traditional install, it would be a 3rd workflow somewhere in the middle of the above two. Something half-baked. Our goal is to get rid of the traditional install, and not to maintain 2 install favors. That's why we made SINGLE_RPMTRANS availabkle in whole SLE-15 (GA-SP5).
Comment 35 Petr Gajdos 2023-04-18 14:09:39 UTC
https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/1080134

Will this work as expected, i. e. restarts php-fpm as soon as any extension rpm touches a shared object under %{extension_dir}/?

See also bug#1210576.
Comment 36 Michael Andres 2023-04-18 14:21:11 UTC
(In reply to Petr Gajdos from comment #35)
> https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/1080134
> 
> Will this work as expected, i. e. restarts php-fpm as soon as any extension
> rpm touches a shared object under %{extension_dir}/?
> 
> See also bug#1210576.

See c#33. Only new ZYPP_SINGLE_RPMTRANS backend handles %transfiletriger as expected. In the traditional backend they behave more like ordinary %filetrigger.
Comment 37 Arjen de Korte 2023-04-18 14:37:54 UTC
(In reply to Petr Gajdos from comment #35)
> https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/1080134
> 
> Will this work as expected, i. e. restarts php-fpm as soon as any extension
> rpm touches a shared object under %{extension_dir}/?
> 
> See also bug#1210576.

If it works, it's nice, if not, nothing is lost.

Until now, the php-fpm.service wouldn't be restarted if one or more extensions were updated at all. Only when php-fpm would be updated at the same time, the %posttrans would make sure that php-fpm.service would be restarted once more after all packages were installed/upgraded/removed. This to prevent the situation where the update of the php-fpm package would happen before the update of the extensions, so it would be restarted 'too soon' in that case and needed an additional restart.

The %transfiletriggerpostun seems to do the job for me, although I already use ZYPP_SINGLE_RPMTRANS for a while, so this behave differently on systems without this.
Comment 38 Franck Bui 2023-04-19 07:02:48 UTC
(In reply to Michael Andres from comment #36)
> See c#33. Only new ZYPP_SINGLE_RPMTRANS backend handles %transfiletriger as
> expected. In the traditional backend they behave more like ordinary
> %filetrigger.

Just out of curiosity, for how long will this backend still be considered as an experimental feature ?
Comment 39 Petr Gajdos 2023-04-20 20:49:45 UTC
(In reply to Arjen de Korte from comment #37)
> (In reply to Petr Gajdos from comment #35)
> > https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/1080134

> If it works, it's nice, if not, nothing is lost.
[..]
> The %transfiletriggerpostun seems to do the job for me, although I already
> use ZYPP_SINGLE_RPMTRANS for a while, so this behave differently on systems
> without this.

As far as I tested the above change means that in case you are updating N php extensions  (generated from the php8 package) in one zypper transaction e. g. with zypper up to newer php version, then the php-fpm is restarted N times. With ZYPP_SINGLE_RPMTRANS=1 it seems to work better, yes.
Comment 40 Arjen de Korte 2023-04-20 21:00:48 UTC
(In reply to Petr Gajdos from comment #39)
> (In reply to Arjen de Korte from comment #37)
> > (In reply to Petr Gajdos from comment #35)
> > > https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/1080134
> 
> > If it works, it's nice, if not, nothing is lost.
> [..]
> > The %transfiletriggerpostun seems to do the job for me, although I already
> > use ZYPP_SINGLE_RPMTRANS for a while, so this behave differently on systems
> > without this.
> 
> As far as I tested the above change means that in case you are updating N
> php extensions  (generated from the php8 package) in one zypper transaction
> e. g. with zypper up to newer php version, then the php-fpm is restarted N
> times. With ZYPP_SINGLE_RPMTRANS=1 it seems to work better, yes.

Restarting N times is not good, so this means we should either forget about this or check if ZYPP_SINGLE_RPMTRANS is set.
Comment 41 Petr Gajdos 2023-04-21 10:45:33 UTC
(In reply to Franck Bui from comment #38)
> (In reply to Michael Andres from comment #36)
> > See c#33. Only new ZYPP_SINGLE_RPMTRANS backend handles %transfiletriger as
> > expected. In the traditional backend they behave more like ordinary
> > %filetrigger.
> 
> Just out of curiosity, for how long will this backend still be considered as
> an experimental feature ?

I am interested in answer to this question, too.

By the way: why I see ZYPP_SINGLE_RPMTRANS form %posttrans but not from %transfiletriger?
Comment 42 Arjen de Korte 2023-04-30 16:04:58 UTC
Am I correct in my observation that YaST in Tumbleweed doesn't honor ZYPP_SINGLE_RPMTRANS=1? It looks like YaST treats %transfiletrigger* as %filetrigger* regardless of this setting. This is quite detrimental if this is used to restart a service, as one will quickly run into the following problem:

Apr 30 15:21:21 example systemd[1]: php-fpm.service: Start request repeated too quickly.
Apr 30 15:21:21 example systemd[1]: php-fpm.service: Failed with result 'start-limit-hit'.
Apr 30 15:21:21 example systemd[1]: Failed to start The PHP FastCGI Process Manager.

After that, the service that was previously running no longer is. This is even worse than not restarting the service at all.
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Comment 46 Michael Andres 2023-09-04 06:58:24 UTC
The next libzypp-17.31.21 (will be released during this week) together with rpm-4.17.0 (on TW) will execute %transfiletriggerpostun and %transfiletriggerin at their correct location with both backends. Also the %transfiletrigger will not be lost if the package also has a %posttrans.

For Code15 rpm there would need to be updated or the '_dump_posttrans / --runposttrans' feature be backported to rpm-4.14.
Comment 47 Luciano Santos 2023-09-13 02:05:28 UTC
Those are wonderful news,

I suppose we'll have to wait a bit longer to benefit from all that hard work yet, but that's no big deal.

P.S.: I think you meant RPM 4.19 (which is still RC1, right now [1])


1. http://rpm.org/timeline
Comment 48 Michael Andres 2023-09-13 09:34:10 UTC
(In reply to Luciano Santos from comment #47)
> I suppose we'll have to wait a bit longer 

Unfortunatey, yes. I'm about to do the final tests. With libzypp-17.31.21 and our rpm>=4.17 on TW both backends (incl. YAST and PK) will execute the %transfiletrigger(postun|in) correctly.

With rpms not supporting 'rpm --runposttrans FILE', the traditional backend will behave as it currently does.


> P.S.: I think you meant RPM 4.19 (which is still RC1, right now [1])

No. The --runposttrans option is SUSE specific (since 4.17) an AFAIK not available upstream.
Comment 49 Luciano Santos 2023-09-13 15:27:41 UTC
Oh, now I see what you meant. Thanks for the clarification.

And I find it comforting to know that things will work out even without ZYPP_SINGLE_RPMTRANS=1. I tested that for a while, but switched back because the memory consumption of a single RPM transaction would go high compared to the usual approach, I can't say whether that changed nowadays, though.
Comment 50 Michael Andres 2023-09-19 10:48:49 UTC
https://github.com/openSUSE/libzypp/pull/485
Comment 51 Franck Bui 2023-09-19 13:29:20 UTC
(In reply to Michael Andres from comment #46)
> For Code15 rpm there would need to be updated or the '_dump_posttrans /
> --runposttrans' feature be backported to rpm-4.14.

Sorry but I can't parse that. Could you rephrase it ?

Also can we make sure that ALP will be fixed too ?

Thanks.
Comment 52 Michael Andres 2023-09-19 16:57:40 UTC
(In reply to Franck Bui from comment #51)
> (In reply to Michael Andres from comment #46)
> > For Code15 rpm there would need to be updated or the '_dump_posttrans /
> > --runposttrans' feature be backported to rpm-4.14.
> 
> Sorry but I can't parse that. Could you rephrase it ?

Sorry for the bad wording.


The fix will require 2 things:
 a) libzypp-17.31.21 (able to use 'rpm --runposttrans')
 b) A rpm patch to support the --runposttrans option

(a) libzypp-17.x will be available in TW and Code15 (i.e. in TW/ALP and all maintained SLE/Leap 15.x distros). 

(b) AFAIK currently only TW/ALP contain such a rpm version:
    # zypper tos
    Distribution Label: openSUSE Tumbleweed
    # rpm --version
    RPM version 4.18.0
    # rpm --runposttrans
    rpm: need posttrans manifest for --runposttrans

Code15 still uses rpm-4.14 without the patch:
    # zypper tos
    Distribution Label: openSUSE Leap 15.5
    # rpm --version
    RPM version 4.14.3
    # rpm --runposttrans
    rpm: --runposttrans: unknown option


> Also can we make sure that ALP will be fixed too ?
AFAIKS ALP uses the TW versions, so it should have the fix as soon as libzypp-17.31.21 is submitted.
Comment 53 Franck Bui 2023-09-20 07:25:47 UTC
Thanks for the clarification.

(In reply to Michael Andres from comment #52)
> > Also can we make sure that ALP will be fixed too ?
> AFAIKS ALP uses the TW versions, so it should have the fix as soon as
> libzypp-17.31.21 is submitted.

AFAIK, you'll need to submit the changes to ALP manually now as the automatic submission process has stopped since a couple of weeks already.
Comment 55 Michael Andres 2023-09-21 16:10:39 UTC
Fixed in libzypp-17.31.21 if rpm supports --runposttrans (rpm-4.17).
Comment 57 Michael Andres 2023-09-21 19:14:57 UTC
*** Bug 1212798 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 59 Michael Andres 2023-10-10 14:42:34 UTC
JFYI: bug#1216091 indicates that 'rpm --runposttrans' does not respect '--root' when executing the scripts. We'll have to disable it until rpm's fixed.
Comment 60 Michael Andres 2023-10-12 12:18:49 UTC
Apparently the chrooted script execution broke in one of the rpm-4.18 updates. We disable the 'rpm --runposttrans' usage (iff --root is used) until rpm-4.19, where the issue should be fixed.
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Comment 64 Maintenance Automation 2023-11-23 08:30:01 UTC
SUSE-RU-2023:4536-1: An update that has five fixes can now be installed.

Category: recommended (moderate)
Bug References: 1041742, 1203760, 1212422, 1215979, 1216091
Sources used:
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP1 (src): libzypp-17.31.22-150100.3.120.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP1 LTSS 15-SP1 (src): libzypp-17.31.22-150100.3.120.1, zypper-1.14.66-150100.3.90.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP1 LTSS 15-SP1 (src): libzypp-17.31.22-150100.3.120.1, zypper-1.14.66-150100.3.90.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 15 SP1 (src): libzypp-17.31.22-150100.3.120.1, zypper-1.14.66-150100.3.90.1
SUSE CaaS Platform 4.0 (src): libzypp-17.31.22-150100.3.120.1, zypper-1.14.66-150100.3.90.1

NOTE: This line indicates an update has been released for the listed product(s). At times this might be only a partial fix. If you have questions please reach out to maintenance coordination.
Comment 65 Maintenance Automation 2023-11-23 12:30:09 UTC
SUSE-RU-2023:4535-1: An update that has five fixes can now be installed.

Category: recommended (moderate)
Bug References: 1041742, 1203760, 1212422, 1215979, 1216091
Sources used:
SUSE Enterprise Storage 7.1 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150200.65.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150200.78.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.1 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150200.65.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150200.78.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.2 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150200.65.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150200.78.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro for Rancher 5.2 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150200.65.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150200.78.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP2 (src): libzypp-17.31.22-150200.78.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP3 (src): libzypp-17.31.22-150200.78.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP2 LTSS 15-SP2 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150200.65.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150200.78.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing ESPOS 15 SP3 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150200.65.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150200.78.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing LTSS 15 SP3 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150200.65.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150200.78.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP2 LTSS 15-SP2 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150200.65.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150200.78.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP3 LTSS 15-SP3 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150200.65.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150200.78.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 15 SP2 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150200.65.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150200.78.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 15 SP3 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150200.65.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150200.78.1
SUSE Manager Proxy 4.2 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150200.65.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150200.78.1
SUSE Manager Retail Branch Server 4.2 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150200.65.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150200.78.1
SUSE Manager Server 4.2 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150200.65.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150200.78.1

NOTE: This line indicates an update has been released for the listed product(s). At times this might be only a partial fix. If you have questions please reach out to maintenance coordination.
Comment 66 Maintenance Automation 2023-11-23 12:30:14 UTC
SUSE-RU-2023:4534-1: An update that has five fixes can now be installed.

Category: recommended (moderate)
Bug References: 1041742, 1203760, 1212422, 1215979, 1216091
Sources used:
openSUSE Leap 15.4 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150400.3.35.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
openSUSE Leap Micro 5.3 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150400.3.35.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
openSUSE Leap Micro 5.4 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150400.3.35.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
openSUSE Leap 15.5 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150400.3.35.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP4 (src): libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP4 (src): libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
SUSE Manager Server 4.3 (src): libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 15 SP4 (src): libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 15 SP4 (src): libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
SUSE Manager Retail Branch Server 4.3 (src): libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
SUSE Manager Proxy 4.3 (src): libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP5 (src): libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP5 (src): libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 15 SP5 (src): libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 15 SP5 (src): libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro for Rancher 5.3 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150400.3.35.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.3 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150400.3.35.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro for Rancher 5.4 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150400.3.35.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.4 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150400.3.35.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.5 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150400.3.35.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
Basesystem Module 15-SP4 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150400.3.35.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1
Basesystem Module 15-SP5 (src): zypper-1.14.66-150400.3.35.1, libzypp-17.31.22-150400.3.43.1

NOTE: This line indicates an update has been released for the listed product(s). At times this might be only a partial fix. If you have questions please reach out to maintenance coordination.