Bug 116447 - YaST language setting modul uninstalls KDE-translations
Summary: YaST language setting modul uninstalls KDE-translations
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
: 116509 (view as bug list)
Alias: None
Product: SUSE LINUX 10.0
Classification: openSUSE
Component: YaST2 (show other bugs)
Version: RC 1
Hardware: Other All
: P5 - None : Enhancement
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Assignee: Stanislav Visnovsky
QA Contact: Klaus Kämpf
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Reported: 2005-09-12 10:13 UTC by Marcel Hilzinger
Modified: 2005-11-16 06:54 UTC (History)
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Description Marcel Hilzinger 2005-09-12 10:13:28 UTC
If you switch the primary language in YaST from whatever e.g. to english, the  
module removes also the KDE-Translations. Perhaps this was guessed as a 
feature, but for most users this is a bug. 
 
1. I think it's not a good idea to delete language-packages automatically  
2. I think it's not a good idea to delete any package without telling it to 
the user.
Comment 1 Michael Gross 2005-09-12 10:21:56 UTC
This is an enhancement.
Jiří please decide if this enhancement makes sense. Thanks.
Comment 2 Jiří Suchomel 2005-09-12 10:25:25 UTC
You should read this in the help text:

"Additional packages with support for the selected primary and secondary
languages will be installed. Packages no longer needed will be removed."

When you don't leave language as a secondary, you probably don't need it at all.
Comment 3 Marcel Hilzinger 2005-09-12 10:50:36 UTC
Yes, I know. That's why I guessed, that's a feature. But within YaST I didn't 
guess, that my KDE-translations will be removed. There is no hint, which 
packages will be removed: 
yast? 
kde? 
gnome? 
openoffice? 
Comment 4 Marcel Hilzinger 2005-09-12 10:57:50 UTC
Just did another check. Switched from DE to HU 
kde-i18n-de is removed, but kde-i18n-hu package get's not is installed. The 
module installs yast-translations, ispell, and firefox-translations 
 
Switched back to DE: 
module want's to install yast-translations, aspell, and firefox translations, 
no KDE. 
 
So as long as the module doesn't install new kde-translations it's not a good 
idea to remove the old ones... 
Comment 5 Jiří Suchomel 2005-09-12 10:59:19 UTC
All packages for the language you don't need -  yast translations, kde, gnome,
openoffice translations, specific fonts etc.
Comment 6 Jiří Suchomel 2005-09-12 11:01:56 UTC
1. Basicaly, if you are switching to another language and intend to use other
languages in future, it is a good idea to leave the rest of the langauges in the
list of secondary ones.

2. If hungarian translations were not installed after switching to HU, it surely
is a bug. Could you please attach the logfiles?
Comment 7 Marcel Hilzinger 2005-09-12 11:23:12 UTC
Ok. Problem of missing KDE-translation was not a bug. I had just the wrong 
CD-set (beta4 instead of RC1). Now via NFS it works. 
But I'm still not convinced, that's a good idea to delete KDE-translation. 
After logout-login the KDE desktop will be in english, as old translations are 
deleted, and new ones not set up yet. 
 
Comment 8 Jiří Suchomel 2005-09-12 11:29:22 UTC
If the new translation are not set up, that might be a KDE initialization
problem. But why should stay the old one, when you removed the old language?
Comment 9 Marcel Hilzinger 2005-09-12 11:38:34 UTC
Because someone want's to change YaSTs language only, not the whole System. 
Comment 10 Marcel Hilzinger 2005-09-12 11:42:00 UTC
Suggestion (enhancement for 10.1): You have already checkboxes for adjusting 
keyboard layout and timezone. Why not make YaST, Firefox, ispell Openoffice, 
KDE, Gnome etc. also available via Checkbox? 
 
Comment 11 Jiří Suchomel 2005-09-12 11:48:06 UTC
ad comment #9:
> Because someone want's to change YaSTs language only, not the whole System. 

But language configuration is for altering whole system - just as all other yast
modules.

("Choose the new Primary Language for your system." "In the selection box,
specify additional languages to use on your system.")

ad comment #10:
separate checboxes for each application? No, that doesn't have a sence. However,
it might heve a sence to have "Adapt packages" checkbox.
Comment 12 Jiří Suchomel 2005-09-12 13:35:13 UTC
We have already discussed this. Anyway, reassiging to get it to FD if necessary.

For intertnal record:
The discussion about installing/uninstalling packages took place in bug #74257
and bug #65344.
Comment 13 Michael Gross 2005-09-12 14:24:40 UTC
*** Bug 116509 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 14 Stanislav Visnovsky 2005-11-16 06:54:40 UTC
I think this has been resolved already.