Bugzilla – Bug 1222119
Slowroll update regularly has hundreds of packages held back, and "zypper dup" will cause hundreds of others to be downgraded
Last modified: 2024-05-20 14:46:51 UTC
Over time and every two weeks or so, Slowroll with the official repo list that I just copied it from the wiki including the priorities will amass multiple hundreds of packages held back. And then when I try "zypper dup" instead it will suggest to downgrade multiple hundreds of others instead. If this was once a year I wouldn't be alarmed, but this happens multiple times a month and keeps happening: # zypper update Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... The following 162 package updates will NOT be installed: audaspace-plugin-ffmpeg blender bluez-qt-imports boost-license1_84_0 clang-tools clang17 ffmpeg-6 ffmpegthumbs gegl-0_4 gstreamer-plugins-libav gwenview5 kconf_update5 kdeclarative-components kfilemetadata5 kimageformats kirigami-addons kirigami2 kitemmodels-imports kpipewire-imports kwayland kwayland-devel kwayland-integration kwin5 layer-shell-qt5 libKF5Archive5 libKF5Attica5 libKF5Codecs5 libKF5ConfigCore5 libKF5ConfigGui5 libKF5ConfigQml5 libKF5CoreAddons5 libKF5DBusAddons5 libKF5DNSSD5 libKF5Declarative5 libKF5DocTools5 libKF5GlobalAccel5 libKF5GuiAddons5 libKF5I18n5 libKF5IconThemes5 libKF5IdleTime5 libKF5ItemModels5 libKF5ItemViews5 libKF5SonnetCore5 libKF5SonnetUi5 libKF5ThreadWeaver5 libKF5WidgetsAddons5 libKF5WidgetsAddons5-lang libKF5WindowSystem5 libKF5XmlGui5 libKPipeWire5 libKPipeWireDmaBuf5 libKPipeWireRecord5 libOpenImageIO2_5 libQt5Bluetooth5 libQt5Bluetooth5-imports libQt5Concurrent5 libQt5Core-devel libQt5Core5 libQt5DBus5 libQt5Gui-devel libQt5Gui5 libQt5Multimedia5 libQt5Network-devel libQt5Network5 libQt5OpenGL5 libQt5Positioning5 libQt5PrintSupport5 libQt5QuickControls2-5 libQt5QuickTemplates2-5 libQt5Sensors5 libQt5Sql5 libQt5Sql5-sqlite libQt5Svg5 libQt5Test-devel libQt5Test5 libQt5TextToSpeech5 libQt5VirtualKeyboard5 libQt5WaylandClient5 libQt5WaylandCompositor5 libQt5WebChannel5 libQt5WebChannel5-imports libQt5WebView5 libQt5WebView5-imports libQt5Widgets-devel libQt5Widgets5 libQt5X11Extras5 libQt5Xml5 libQtQuick5 libavcodec60 libavdevice60 libavfilter9 libavformat60 libavutil58 libboost_atomic1_84_0 libboost_atomic1_84_0-x86-64-v3 libboost_chrono1_84_0 libboost_date_time1_84_0 libboost_date_time1_84_0-x86-64-v3 libboost_filesystem1_84_0 libboost_filesystem1_84_0-x86-64-v3 libboost_iostreams1_84_0 libboost_locale1_84_0 libboost_regex1_84_0 libboost_regex1_84_0-x86-64-v3 libboost_system1_84_0 libboost_system1_84_0-x86-64-v3 libboost_thread1_84_0 libboost_thread1_84_0-x86-64-v3 libboost_wave1_84_0 libboost_wave1_84_0-x86-64-v3 libclang-cpp17 libclang13 libffmpegthumbnailer4 libgegl-0_4-0 libgtk-3-0 libmfx1 libncurses6 libpostproc57 libproxy1 libpxbackend-1_0 libqt5-qdbus libqt5-qtbase-common-devel libqt5-qtdeclarative-devel libqt5-qtdeclarative-tools libqt5-qtgraphicaleffects libqt5-qtimageformats libqt5-qtquickcontrols libqt5-qtquickcontrols2 libqt5-qtspeech-plugin-speechd libqt5-qtvirtualkeyboard libqt5-qtwayland libqt5-qtwayland-devel libqt5-qtwebengine libswresample4 libswscale7 llvm17-gold mingw64-cpp mingw64-cross-cpp mingw64-cross-gcc mingw64-cross-gcc-c++ mingw64-gcc mingw64-gcc-c++ mingw64-libgcc_s_seh1 mingw64-libstdc++-gdb-printer mpv mpv-mpris ncurses-devel pam-32bit plasma-framework plasma-framework-components plasma-framework-desktoptheme plasma5-desktop plasma5-integration-plugin plasma5-workspace plasma5-workspace-libs qqc2-desktop-style qtdeclarative-imports-provides-qt5 ruby3.3-rubygem-childprocess sonnet-imports terminfo terminfo-base xdg-desktop-portal-kde Nothing to do. # zypper dup Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Warning: You are about to do a distribution upgrade with all enabled repositories. Make sure these repositories are compatible before you continue. See 'man zypper' for more information about this command. Computing distribution upgrade... The following 125 packages are going to be upgraded: audaspace-plugin-ffmpeg blender bluez-qt-imports ffmpeg-6 ffmpegthumbs gegl-0_4 gstreamer-plugins-libav gwenview5 kconf_update5 kdeclarative-components kfilemetadata5 kimageformats kirigami-addons kirigami2 kitemmodels-imports kpipewire-imports kwayland kwayland-devel kwayland-integration kwin5 layer-shell-qt5 libKF5Archive5 libKF5Attica5 libKF5Codecs5 libKF5ConfigCore5 libKF5ConfigGui5 libKF5ConfigQml5 libKF5CoreAddons5 libKF5DBusAddons5 libKF5DNSSD5 libKF5Declarative5 libKF5DocTools5 libKF5GlobalAccel5 libKF5GuiAddons5 libKF5I18n5 libKF5IconThemes5 libKF5IdleTime5 libKF5ItemModels5 libKF5ItemViews5 libKF5SonnetCore5 libKF5SonnetUi5 libKF5ThreadWeaver5 libKF5WidgetsAddons5 libKF5WidgetsAddons5-lang libKF5WindowSystem5 libKF5XmlGui5 libKPipeWire5 libKPipeWireDmaBuf5 libKPipeWireRecord5 libOpenImageIO2_5 libQt5Bluetooth5 libQt5Bluetooth5-imports libQt5Concurrent5 libQt5Core-devel libQt5Core5 libQt5DBus5 libQt5Gui-devel libQt5Gui5 libQt5Multimedia5 libQt5Network-devel libQt5Network5 libQt5OpenGL5 libQt5Positioning5 libQt5PrintSupport5 libQt5QuickControls2-5 libQt5QuickTemplates2-5 libQt5Sensors5 libQt5Sql5 libQt5Sql5-sqlite libQt5Svg5 libQt5Test-devel libQt5Test5 libQt5TextToSpeech5 libQt5VirtualKeyboard5 libQt5WaylandClient5 libQt5WaylandCompositor5 libQt5WebChannel5 libQt5WebChannel5-imports libQt5WebView5 libQt5WebView5-imports libQt5Widgets-devel libQt5Widgets5 libQt5X11Extras5 libQt5Xml5 libQtQuick5 libavcodec60 libavdevice60 libavfilter9 libavformat60 libavutil58 libffmpegthumbnailer4 libgegl-0_4-0 libmfx1 libncurses6 libpostproc57 libqt5-qdbus libqt5-qtbase-common-devel libqt5-qtdeclarative-devel libqt5-qtdeclarative-tools libqt5-qtgraphicaleffects libqt5-qtimageformats libqt5-qtquickcontrols libqt5-qtquickcontrols2 libqt5-qtspeech-plugin-speechd libqt5-qtvirtualkeyboard libqt5-qtwayland libqt5-qtwayland-devel libqt5-qtwebengine libswresample4 libswscale7 mpv mpv-mpris ncurses-devel plasma-framework plasma-framework-components plasma-framework-desktoptheme plasma5-desktop plasma5-integration-plugin plasma5-workspace plasma5-workspace-libs qqc2-desktop-style sonnet-imports terminfo terminfo-base xdg-desktop-portal-kde The following 136 packages are going to be downgraded: 7zip PackageKit PackageKit-backend-zypp PackageKit-branding-upstream PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin PackageKit-gtk3-module accountsservice accountsservice-lang audacity audacity-lang bash bash-doc bash-lang bash-sh busybox-static cron cronie dmraid fluidsynth-devel gdk-pixbuf-loader-libheif gdk-pixbuf-loader-rsvg klogd libGeneratedSaxParser0_3 libLLVM15 libLLVM17 libLLVM17-32bit libMathMLSolver0_3 libOpenCOLLADABaseUtils0_3 libOpenCOLLADAFramework0_3 libOpenCOLLADASaxFrameworkLoader0_3 libOpenCOLLADAStreamWriter0_3 libUTF0_3 libabsl2308_0_0 libavcodec58_134 libavformat58_76 libavutil56_70 libbuffer0_3 libcdt5 libcgraph6 libclang-cpp15 libdjvulibre21 libduktape207 libebml5 libepub0 libevent-2_1-7 libfluidsynth3 libftoa0_3 libgcrypt20 libgcrypt20-32bit libgd3 libgd3-32bit libgnutls30-32bit libgvc6 libheif1 libid3-3_8-3 libkdsoap2 libmetalink3 libmetis5 libmspub-0_1-1 libmwaw-0_3-3 libnftables1 libnftnl11 libpackagekit-glib2-18 libpathplan4 libplacebo338 libpostproc55_9 libprocps8 libprojectM3 libprotobuf-c1 libraw23 libreadline8 librsvg-2-2 libsmi libsmi2 libssh-config libssh4 libswresample3_9 libswscale5_9 libtiff-devel libtiff6 libtiff6-32bit libtracker-sparql-3_0-0 libusb-1_0-0 libusb-1_0-0-32bit libvapoursynth-65 libvapoursynth-script0 libvlc5 libvlccore9 libvte-2_91-0 libvulkan1 libvulkan1-32bit libwireplumber-0_4-0 libxvidcore4 make mdevctl nftables openSUSE-build-key pam perl-Net-DBus procinfo procps python3-vapoursynth python311-nftables python311-psutil python311-six python311-urllib3 python311-yt-dlp qtdeclarative-imports-provides-qt5 readline-devel readline-doc ruby3.2-rubygem-gem2rpm suse-module-tools suse-module-tools-scriptlets syslog-service tack typelib-1_0-Vte-2_91 usbutils vagrant vagrant-bash-completion vagrant-vim vlc-codec-gstreamer vlc-lang vlc-noX vlc-opencv vlc-qt vulkan-devel vulkan-headers w3m wireplumber wireplumber-audio xdg-utils yt-dlp yt-dlp-bash-completion zypper zypper-log zypper-needs-restarting The following 7 packages are going to be reinstalled: libBasicUsageEnvironment2 libUsageEnvironment3 libgroupsock30 libliveMedia112 pam-doc pam-manpages rsnapshot The following 58 NEW packages are going to be installed: docbook-xsl-stylesheets docbook_4 geoclue2 google-noto-coloremoji-fonts iso_ent kImageAnnotator-lang kcoreaddons kcoreaddons-lang kde-gtk-config5 kde-gtk-config5-gtk3 kdoctools kguiaddons ksshaskpass5 ksshaskpass5-lang libKF5UnitConversion5 libOpenColorIO2_3 libQt5HunspellInputMethod5 libQt5Sensors5-imports libQt5XmlPatterns5 libabsl2401_0_0 libdcmtk18 libgcrypt20-x86-64-v3 libheif-aom libheif-dav1d libheif-ffmpeg libheif-jpeg libheif-openjpeg libheif-rav1e libheif-svtenc libkColorPicker-Qt5-0 libkImageAnnotator-Qt5-0 libminizip-ng4 libopencv409 libopencv_imgcodecs409 libopencv_videoio409 libopenvdb10_1 libqt5-qtbase-platformtheme-gtk3 libqt5-qtstyleplugins-platformtheme-gtk2 libqt5-qttranslations libqt5-qtvirtualkeyboard-hunspell libqt5-qtxmlpatterns-imports libreoffice-qt5 libvmaf3 libvpl2 libvpx9 libxslt-tools libz-ng2 oxygen5-sounds plasma5-addons plasma5-addons-lang plasma5-desktop-emojier plasma5-integration-plugin-lang purpose purpose-services sgml-skel xdg-user-dirs xmlcharent xsettingsd The following 26 packages are going to be REMOVED: libAppStreamQt2 libOpenColorIO2_1 libSPIRV-Tools-2023_5_rc1 libappstream4 libcamera-base0_1 libcamera0_1 libdcmtk17 libglslang13 libjxl0_8 libkColorPicker0 libkImageAnnotator0 libliveMedia107 libopencv408 libopencv_imgcodecs408 libopencv_videoio408 libopenvdb9_0 libprotobuf-lite23_4_0 libvmaf1 libwx_baseu-suse-nostl9_0_0 libwx_baseu_net-suse-nostl9_0_0 libwx_baseu_xml-suse-nostl9_0_0 libwx_gtk3u_core-suse-nostl9_0_0 libwx_gtk3u_html-suse-nostl9_0_0 libwx_gtk3u_qa-suse-nostl9_0_0 phonon4qt5-backend-gstreamer xboxdrv 125 packages to upgrade, 136 to downgrade, 58 new, 7 to reinstall, 26 to remove. Overall download size: 404.2 MiB. Already cached: 0 B. After the operation, additional 63.8 MiB will be used. Continue? [y/n/v/...? shows all options] (y): ^C Furthermore, other users I spoke to don't seem to see this. So I'm guessing this is maybe not meant to happen.
DON‘T use zypper update! Slowroll is a Tumbleweed derivate and needs zypper dup as described in the wiki. User error. https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Slowroll
So that hundreds of packages end up downgraded every two weeks or so is somehow intended? Or what exactly is the takeaway from that? I'm not meaning to say you're wrong, just that I don't quite understand.
For what it's worth, I keep getting literal hundreds of packages downgraded every 2-3 weeks or so. If that's intentional that's fine, but it doesn't seem like a normal thing to happen at all.
The following 289 packages are going to be downgraded: accountsservice accountsservice-lang acl autoconf autofs binutils branding-openSUSE bsdtar btrfsprogs btrfsprogs-bash-completion btrfsprogs-udev-rules cron cronie cyrus-sasl cyrus-sasl-crammd5 cyrus-sasl-digestmd5 cyrus-sasl-gssapi cyrus-sasl-plain desktop-translations distribution-logos-openSUSE-icons distribution-logos-openSUSE-Tumbleweed fde-tpm-helper fwupd fwupd-bash-completion gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders gdk-pixbuf-thumbnailer girepository-1_0 glibc glibc-devel glibc-extra glibc-lang glibc-locale glibc-locale-base go1.21 go1.21-doc go1.21-race grub2-branding-openSUSE gsettings-desktop-schemas gsettings-desktop-schemas-lang gstreamer gtk2-data gtk2-immodule-amharic gtk2-immodule-inuktitut gtk2-immodule-thai gtk2-immodule-tigrigna gtk2-immodule-vietnamese gtk2-tools gtk4-schema gtk4-tools hfsutils iso-codes kernel-firmware-all kernel-firmware-amdgpu kernel-firmware-ath10k kernel-firmware-ath11k kernel-firmware-ath12k kernel-firmware-atheros kernel-firmware-bluetooth kernel-firmware-bnx2 kernel-firmware-brcm kernel-firmware-chelsio kernel-firmware-dpaa2 kernel-firmware-i915 kernel-firmware-intel kernel-firmware-iwlwifi kernel-firmware-liquidio kernel-firmware-marvell kernel-firmware-media kernel-firmware-mediatek kernel-firmware-mellanox kernel-firmware-mwifiex kernel-firmware-network kernel-firmware-nfp kernel-firmware-nvidia kernel-firmware-platform kernel-firmware-prestera kernel-firmware-qcom kernel-firmware-qlogic kernel-firmware-radeon kernel-firmware-realtek kernel-firmware-serial kernel-firmware-sound kernel-firmware-ti kernel-firmware-ueagle kernel-firmware-usb-network kernel-macros krb5 libacl1 libarchive13 libavcodec58_134 libavformat58_76 libavutil56_70 libbpf1 libbtrfs0 libbtrfsutil1 libctf0 libctf-nobfd0 libexslt0 libfwupd2 libgdk_pixbuf-2_0-0 libgirepository-1_0-1 libgps30 libgstreamer-1_0-0 libgtk-2_0-0 libharfbuzz0 libharfbuzz-gobject0 libharfbuzz-icu0 libharfbuzz-subset0 libjasper7 libOpenImageIO2_5 libOpenImageIO_Util2_5 libopenssl1_1 libopenssl3 libopenssl3-x86-64-v3 libpostproc55_9 libpython3_11-1_0 libpython3_11-1_0-x86-64-v3 libQt6Concurrent6 libQt6Core6 libQt6DBus6 libQt6Gui6 libQt6Network6 libQt6OpenGL6 libQt6OpenGLWidgets6 libQt6PrintSupport6 libQt6Sql6 libQt6Test6 libQt6Widgets6 libQt6Xml6 libreoffice libreoffice-base libreoffice-branding-openSUSE libreoffice-calc libreoffice-draw libreoffice-filters-optional libreoffice-icon-themes libreoffice-impress libreoffice-l10n-en libreoffice-mailmerge libreoffice-math libreoffice-pyuno libreoffice-qt5 libreoffice-writer libsasl2-3 libSDL2-2_0-0 libswresample3_9 libswscale5_9 libsystemd0 libtracker-sparql-3_0-0 libtss2-esys0 libtss2-mu0 libtss2-rc0 libtss2-sys1 libudev1 libunbound8 libvirt libvirt-client libvirt-client-qemu libvirt-daemon libvirt-daemon-common libvirt-daemon-config-network libvirt-daemon-config-nwfilter libvirt-daemon-driver-interface libvirt-daemon-driver-libxl libvirt-daemon-driver-network libvirt-daemon-driver-nodedev libvirt-daemon-driver-nwfilter libvirt-daemon-driver-qemu libvirt-daemon-driver-secret libvirt-daemon-driver-storage libvirt-daemon-driver-storage-core libvirt-daemon-driver-storage-disk libvirt-daemon-driver-storage-iscsi libvirt-daemon-driver-storage-iscsi-direct libvirt-daemon-driver-storage-logical libvirt-daemon-driver-storage-mpath libvirt-daemon-driver-storage-rbd libvirt-daemon-driver-storage-scsi libvirt-daemon-lock libvirt-daemon-log libvirt-daemon-plugin-lockd libvirt-daemon-proxy libvirt-libs libvte-2_91-0 libwireplumber-0_5-0 libxslt1 libxslt-tools libxxhash0 MozillaThunderbird MozillaThunderbird-openpgp-librnp nscd openssl-1_1 openssl-3 openSUSE-release openSUSE-release-ftp osinfo-db ovmf patterns-base-apparmor patterns-base-base patterns-base-documentation patterns-base-enhanced_base patterns-base-minimal_base patterns-base-sw_management plymouth-branding-openSUSE python311 python311-base python311-base-x86-64-v3 python311-curses python311-dbm python311-devel python311-Jinja2 python311-x86-64-v3 qemu qemu-accel-tcg-x86 qemu-audio-pipewire qemu-audio-spice qemu-block-curl qemu-block-nfs qemu-block-rbd qemu-chardev-spice qemu-hw-display-qxl qemu-hw-display-virtio-gpu qemu-hw-display-virtio-gpu-pci qemu-hw-display-virtio-vga qemu-hw-usb-host qemu-hw-usb-redirect qemu-hw-usb-smartcard qemu-img qemu-ipxe qemu-ksm qemu-microvm qemu-ovmf-x86_64 qemu-pr-helper qemu-seabios qemu-tools qemu-ui-curses qemu-ui-gtk qemu-ui-opengl qemu-ui-spice-app qemu-ui-spice-core qemu-vgabios qemu-x86 qt6-base-common-devel qt6-base-devel qt6-concurrent-devel qt6-core-devel qt6-dbus-devel qt6-gui-devel qt6-network-devel qt6-networkinformation-glib qt6-networkinformation-nm qt6-network-tls qt6-opengl-devel qt6-openglwidgets-devel qt6-platformtheme-gtk3 qt6-printsupport-cups qt6-printsupport-devel qt6-sql-devel qt6-sql-sqlite qt6-test-devel qt6-widgets-devel qt6-xml-devel sac SDL2-devel systemd systemd-container systemd-coredump systemd-devel systemd-doc systemd-lang systemd-sysvcompat typelib-1_0-Fwupd-2_0 typelib-1_0-GdkPixbuf-2_0 typelib-1_0-Gst-1_0 typelib-1_0-HarfBuzz-0_0 typelib-1_0-Vte-2_91 ucode-amd udev unbound-anchor virt-install virt-manager virt-manager-common wallpaper-branding-openSUSE wireplumber wireplumber-audio wireshark-plugin-libvirt yast2-bootloader yast2-installation yast2-qt-branding-openSUSE It just doesn't look quite normal.