Bug 157445 - German and other translated manuals (PDF) are missing
Summary: German and other translated manuals (PDF) are missing
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
: 175603 (view as bug list)
Alias: None
Product: SUSE Linux 10.1
Classification: openSUSE
Component: Documentation (show other bugs)
Version: RC 2
Hardware: Other Other
: P5 - None : Major (vote)
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Assignee: Lars Vogdt
QA Contact: Karl Eichwalder
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Reported: 2006-03-11 16:51 UTC by Karl Eichwalder
Modified: 2006-05-22 07:16 UTC (History)
7 users (show)

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Found By: Documentation
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Description Karl Eichwalder 2006-03-11 16:51:52 UTC
German manuals are still missing.  I'll try to add at least a preliminary set on Monday (2006-03-13).
Comment 1 Karl Eichwalder 2006-03-15 06:40:53 UTC
preliminary version submitted.
Comment 2 Tim Fechtner 2006-04-25 11:44:43 UTC
In RC2 I couldn't find it. suselinux-manual_en is present in version 10.1-18-noarch, but other languages aren't. Or are manuals in other languages named completly different?
Comment 3 Tim Fechtner 2006-04-26 08:05:37 UTC
Reopening. Can't find the documentation in any other language than english in RC2.
Comment 4 Karl Eichwalder 2006-05-02 08:47:44 UTC
If I build docudir, all the pdf files got included into the docudir package (modulo cs, which I'm going to add right now).  Maybe, machcd skips the translated books intentionally?  Lars, will you please check it?  It is mising here:
.../SLP/SUSE-10.1-DVD9-RC3/i386/DVD1/docu/

I did not check again the HTML versions, but they were surely available during the last weeks.
Comment 5 Lars Vogdt 2006-05-02 09:08:54 UTC
Have it:
suselinux-manual_de-pdf - disabled for suse101-dvd9-i386
suselinux-manual_en-pdf - disabled for suse101-dvd9-i386

same for the following pdf docs (html version is on dvd9): cs, es, fr, it, ja, pt_BR, zh_CN, zh_TW

We've only the suselinux-manual_en on CDs - all other manuals are disabled.

AJ: which languages should be on CD?
Comment 6 Andreas Jaeger 2006-05-02 09:14:54 UTC
If there'S space: Either all - or only english.
Comment 7 Karl Eichwalder 2006-05-02 11:45:49 UTC
I changed the README in "docudir", to list all PDFs now.  If we cannot add them for space constraints, we must change back the README.
Comment 8 Lars Vogdt 2006-05-02 13:38:25 UTC
I've tested the size with a new DVD-Build: the size is too big for a DVD9.

But we could add the "startup_<lang>.pdf"-files - seems to be a good compensation for me. 

ke: could you change the README ?
Comment 9 Karl Eichwalder 2006-05-02 14:32:50 UTC
What a pity.  We deliver the startup guide as a printed manual anyway, but it is better than nothing (in case a German customer wants to read the English book)... We must find a way to make the PDFs available to the customers; they like these files (books) a lot.  Can we offer the PDF packages for download at least?
Comment 10 Lars Vogdt 2006-05-02 14:42:10 UTC
We have Factory for that. But currently we've only suselinux-manual_en-pdf in that place - no other pdfs available.

As I can see: all translations are GFDLed - so we can add them to the factory tree, if aj approves this.
Comment 11 Tim Fechtner 2006-05-02 15:09:24 UTC
> I've tested the size with a new DVD-Build: the size is too big for a DVD9.

Does this mean that the documentation won't be in the DVD9, or that the documentation won't be in any version? The costumers (at least me) like these files really a lot. Suse contains so many packages. Can't there be removed another package to have place for the complete documentation, at least in pdf OR html?
Comment 12 Lars Vogdt 2006-05-02 15:14:18 UTC
(In reply to comment #11)
> Can't there be removed
> another package to have place for the complete documentation, at least in pdf
> OR html?

We have the html documentation already on the DVD9. The only problem is that we don't have enough space to include the same documentation as pdf on <CD-ROOT>/docu/<lang>/*.pdf

So a costumer like you already has the documentation (see susehelp center). But not additionally as pdf. 

Comment 13 Andreas Jaeger 2006-05-02 15:17:34 UTC
Please add them to factory.
Comment 14 Lars Vogdt 2006-05-02 15:22:03 UTC
done. => added to factory.

So whats left to do is a new README with only <lang>/startup_*.pdf in it.
Comment 15 Karl Eichwalder 2006-05-03 07:14:56 UTC
done.

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Wed May  3 09:07:19 CEST 2006 - ke@suse.de

- Update README: only the Start-Up PDFs are available in /docu [#
  157445].

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Comment 16 Tim Fechtner 2006-05-03 07:52:10 UTC
> We have the html documentation already on the DVD9. The only problem
> is that we don't have enough space to include the same documentation
> as pdf on <CD-ROOT>/docu/<lang>/*.pdf

And will the html documentation only be part of the DVD9 or also of the other versiions? In RC2 (32bit-CDs) also the html-doc is only avaible in english.
Comment 17 Karl Eichwalder 2006-05-03 08:35:13 UTC
suselinux-manual_LL{,_CC} containing the HTML format should be part of all products, but it is okay to have them on the DVD9 only.

Lars, I just added docu/en/applying_patches.pdf to the docudir package.  Please make sure this PDF will be available on the 1st installation medium as well (together with the startup guide).
Comment 18 Lars Vogdt 2006-05-03 08:51:28 UTC
ok. checked in for next build
Comment 19 Lars Vogdt 2006-05-09 17:35:46 UTC
We don't have enough space for all pdf-docu on the CDs. So there will only be the HTML-docu (install via YaST and read in SUSEhelp-center), sorry.

So really WONTFIX for CDs. 
DVD9 will get the "startup_<lang>.pdf" for all languages and "applying_patches.pdf" in english.

For the other PDFs, please have a look at:
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/docu/

Here you can find the newest files we have.
Comment 20 Marcus Meissner 2006-05-15 11:16:43 UTC
*sigh*
Comment 21 Karl Eichwalder 2006-05-15 12:46:56 UTC
*** Bug 175603 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***